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[–]FistofanAngryGoddessTumblrina Ballerina 61 points62 points ago

People are still getting all pissy about her? She's making the videos and everything yet people who haven't spent a cent on her are crying about her taking people's money.

[–]Ehmanda 44 points45 points ago

Honestly! She has delivered, and delivered it beautifully. She's done a huge amount of work and I'm glad she exists. They're getting buyers remorse with their emotions, apparently.

'I was invested in her story and bought the hate towards her, now she hasn't specifically pandered to my wants and needs and now I hate her... even more!'

[–]riomhaireYou can't spell St[EA]m without STEM 6 points7 points ago

I consider myself a gamer and spend way too much time talking about games online and yet I've learned some pretty interesting stuff about the games themselves (like the history of Starfox Adventures) from her videos. Then I see people saying she's done no research for these videos and I'm just "wut".

[–]misandrasaurus 32 points33 points ago

Seriously. I can't figure out why they care so much about this. Especially the specific gripe in this linked comment. Why do they give a shit if someone spent their money on her Kickstarter? My husband is always spending money on some random Kickstarter or another, and even when it's coming out of our joint bank account I can't imagine giving this much of a shit about the fact that money was spent.

[–]Fembominationthe artist formerly known as IMTA 12 points13 points ago

What if you had to settle a financial dispute over that account; since he bought into a kick starter with shared assets, would you have to equally divide the feelings of anger and vitriol towards the project's head, or what?

[–]misandrasaurus 11 points12 points ago

I believe this is one of the most important family law questions of our time. Are both parties entitled to scorn Sarkeesian simultaneously? Or is it too dangerous to consume the limited resource of Sarkeesian bashing so selfishly? Lord knows we must be approaching peak Sarkeesian.

[–]DannyMcGeekYou are not machines! You are not cattle! You are BRDs! 12 points13 points ago

Misandrasaurus has a joint hate agreement with their husband. They hate Anita on Mondays and Tuesday, with husband hating on Wednesdays and Thursdays, and they alternate weekends of hating.

[–]Ctrl_Alt_Megan 3 points4 points ago

Glad to know people like your husband are out there. Kickstarter is an amazing website. I have to budget myself to only donate about $100 a month and it's really hard to pick whom to give it to sometimes. I even donated to Anita's kickstarter and am immensely pleased with her work. I have 0 complaints.

[–]jenchan13Vice president Joe Brden. 9 points10 points ago

If there is a pissy manchild there is a way.

[–]psirynn 50 points51 points ago

(Friendly reminder that an MRA did the exact things they accuse Sarkeesian of doing, got away with it, and no one's crying about it.)

[–]SuperKamiGuru34 13 points14 points ago

Really? Who?

[–]srs_bizserious business 21 points22 points ago

[–]sperm_jackmanformerly touchedbyapoop 18 points19 points ago

It's funny everytime I see the word "misandry" used seriously...I just kind of laugh. It's like "Oh noes, people are going to assume I'm more qualified or more professional based on me being a clean cut dude. That's like total misandry right there (because I'm lazy and I make dick and poop jokes all day)."

[–]funghiifeminist killjoy 3 points4 points ago

me and my sister use to say something is ridiculous, we say it in a whiny voice: miiiisaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaandryyyyyyyyyyyy

it's hilarious

[–]LordByronicPeople made of smoke, and cities made of farts 1 point2 points ago

My girlfriend and I do something similar: "misandry" in a stage whisper, with jazz hands.

[–]WybothHeckler and Koch 9mm Privilege Checker 4 points5 points ago

Granted, though, this probably has far less publicity than Anita's videos.

[–]SuchPowerfulAlly 7 points8 points ago

[–]slayeryouth 24 points25 points ago

I too become furious when people I don't give money to somebody who then turns round and does exactly what they said they would do with it. I just don't know if I want to live in a world where people are true to their word.

[–]kingofallthehipsters 24 points25 points ago

Everytime someone mentions Anita Sarkeesian on reddit it just brings a smile to my face. The tears are so delicious.

[–]adolescentghost 6 points7 points ago

I really disagree with some of the analyses she makes of certain games, but am 100% behind her in bringing sexist tropes to the forefront of a lot of conversations, especially with gamers. Probably pretty well needed at this point. And I opened that article written by the MRA dude and just couldn't get past the first few sentences, man that is some shit.

[–]selfhatingmisandererwill misander for food 19 points20 points ago

People who aren't mad with how she's used the money: People who contributed to her kickstarter

People who are mad: People who didn't contribute

[–]aplaceatthedqsome people close to me suggested I not jack this circle. 53 points54 points ago

Why do I get the impression that no one in that thread has actually seen an Anita Sarkeesian video and only knows her as the feminist vlogger who ocean's elevened one hundred million dollars from Take Two Interactive to build her planetary death ray where she is holding Gabe Newell and Shigeru Miyamoto inside a volcano in a fortress made entirely of shoes.

[–]psirynn 19 points20 points ago

I'm pretty sure they don't actually know there are videos. A whole lot of her critics seem to think she pocketed the money and ran.

[–]riomhaireYou can't spell St[EA]m without STEM 8 points9 points ago

Which is funny because that's exactly what the "Tropes Vs Men" fundraiser guys seem to have done.

[–]ArchangelleJophielleOF OUR BRD'S FLAME 10 points11 points ago

The level of vitriol towards her is surreal, isn't it? Interestingly enough, the very first video in Sarkeesian's Tropes vs Women series received a very surprising reception when it was posted to reddit. The reaction was pretty much, "Is this what everyone's been so mad about? what, why?"

It wasn't until later before some MRA sadvocates dissected her videos second-by-second to tell us what she'd really been saying that the reddit jerk felt safe enough to return to their default position, that she's a sex-negative anti-male misandrist who stole a load of money by encouraging trolls to send her death threats.

[–]Ctrl_Alt_Megan 6 points7 points ago

I laughed so hard when I read this I accidentally farted. It woke my dog up out of a dead sleep, he barked at me, and then left my room. This was a great way to start the day lol.

[–]funghiifeminist killjoy 2 points3 points ago

Hey Anita, lemme into the fortress of shoes please. i can help you glue it together with my nailpolish collection

[–]BawbDowl 7 points8 points ago

I think you just won at the internet.

[–]CapLavender 28 points29 points ago

no matter what you think about feminism, i think we can all agree that anita sarkeesian is awesome for how much and how easily she upsets all these brokedick manchildren just by criticizing their precious video games

Ho-holy shit, that was great.

[–]hermeticThe beardtears make me so mad. Why do people/redditors do that? 12 points13 points ago

It's actually kinda sad. He started making a bunch of claims, like that Tomb Raider was made for women. Then he self-destructed spectacularly and started posting random YouTube links. That's when I bowed out.

There's only so much secondhand shame I can endure.

[–]Misogynist-istOVERLY SENSITIVE LADYTYPE 3 points4 points ago

Since when do we take Thunderf00t seriously?

[–]riomhaireYou can't spell St[EA]m without STEM 2 points3 points ago

I used to watch his "Why do people laugh at creationists" videos when I was younger and more shitheady. I'm sorry :(

[–]Sleestaks 18 points19 points ago

This is a daily thing on reddit..

Oh, it's noon. Better write about Anita Sarkeesian. And misandry. Mostly misandry in video games. And how evil women are. Especially Anita Sarkeesian

[–]BoxDroppingManApeI separate the platform from the dog shit it is made out of 13 points14 points ago

I feel so objectified by having to play a powerful muscled man in video games. I feel like this is reinforcing negative gender stereotypes about men being powerful compared to women. I have never once felt powerful in my life, which proves male privilege doesn't exist. I have no way of living up to this unobtainable ideal of enforcing my will upon the world by bloodshed, flexing, and screaming.

Hopefully I didn't just fall prey to Poe's Law. I gazed too greedily and deep into the abyss to write that.

[–]funghiifeminist killjoy 2 points3 points ago

don't forget nerd blackface

[–]DollaBillMontgomery 8 points9 points ago

well that's twelve minutes of my life I'm never getting back.

[–]kirbysgreengreensHumorless PC Crusader 16 points17 points ago

You watched all twelve? After the first example being "a feminist said something bad about men HOW TOXIC," I couldn't keep watching. It wasn't even an insult to men, it was a criticism of how some men view other men, really.

[–]DollaBillMontgomery 17 points18 points ago

I lied for comedic effect, I'm a fraud.

I got maybe three minutes in but I nearly closed it when he whined about men getting called out by that Rebecca Watson video. Apparently men are allowed to call women c**ts as much as they please, but when Rebecca calls it out, it's "feminism poisoning literally everything."

[–]Misogynist-istOVERLY SENSITIVE LADYTYPE 2 points3 points ago

LITERALLY EVERYTHING. The rivers are overflowing with poison because a woman doesn't like being called by a gendered slur.

[–]shirleytempest 9 points10 points ago

So much impotent manger.

[–]drawlinnn 6 points7 points ago

So many cry babies.

These man children really do get upset when someone criticizes their precious video games

[–]octopus-crime 3 points4 points ago

When a feminist criticizes their games. They're fine with someone like Zero Punctuation ripping them apart.

[–]backlace 0 points1 point ago

But he's funny and cynical and cishet! And owns a bar which attracts shitty man children!

[–]Ctrl_Alt_Megan 5 points6 points ago

I almost want to make a youtube video called Men and Misandry: A Manbaby's Guide to Actual Misandry.

It will be in depth and analytical, highlighting actual examples of Misandry and how it is nowhere to be found in the male dominated entertainment industry.

Then I want to highlight the history of sexism. Starting with all the socially acceptable bitch slaps women were regularly on the receiving end of in spaghetti westerns to today's music video vixens.

As I type this it seems like such a good idea I'd almost consider a Kickstarter for it. This B.A. in English has to be good for something. Then when all is said and done I want to post it in the MRA forum.

If I smoke enough weed that just might happen. It's what I do.

[–]S3xyInternalOrgans 4 points5 points ago

[BREAKING JERK]Yo, if you want to do that, I'd totally donate and do research for free. Fellow B.A. in English and Sociology reporting in. We could get a collab going with any AV SRSers, maybe get some of SRS Ivory Tower involved? I'm on a ten week leave of absence, and documenting actual misandry seems like a wonderful use of my recovery time. [END]

We could add all the man-tears to our sperm collection and receive an award from the Feminist High Council for amassing more shitlord bodily fluids than any other agents in the field.

[–]Ctrl_Alt_Megan 5 points6 points ago

You know it started out as a joke but I'm actually really interested in doing that and the fact someone would be willing to offer assistance makes me all the more willing to so. The project would out all the video editing knowledge I have to the test and my the shitlord tears really put the icing on the cake.

If you and maybe a couple of the AV SRSers would be willing to help my noob ass with some of the finer points of video making and research I will get a Kickstarter set up as soon as I get a clear idea of what I want to do and what it would take to do it.

[–]S3xyInternalOrgans 4 points5 points ago

I'd say a lot of people would be interested in participating! Maybe we should get our asses to IRC and recruit? Then set up a private chat or PM tree in a couple of days, pool ideas, get a structure on it, figure out how much you'd need, take it to Kickstarter and publicise the living hell out of it.

[–]Ctrl_Alt_Megan 4 points5 points ago

Awww now I'm really excited. And luckily I've already got some pretty nice equipment in terms of cameras. :D I mean I really want to use this as a way to create a constructive argument supporting the fact that women are under represented in all forms of media.

I want to intersperse it with subtle MRA jabs and just the right amount of misandry so they learn on this deep, visceral level the real difference between feminism and misandry because I am so not above fighting fire with fire.

[–]PaleBlueNewInternational Ambassador of Spermjack 4 points5 points ago

(having read the entire thread about a misandry documentary)

[–]Ctrl_Alt_Megan 4 points5 points ago

What can I say. Everyone in this sub inspired me. :) Seriously it's people like you guys who make me fell better about my fire with fire philosophy. I get a lot of shit for it. I'm going to make this video for all the misandrists out there being threatened and harassed while a world of sandwich jokes goes unchecked.

I want this inspire hate the likes MRA isn't even prepared for. They think Anita Sarkeesian was bad? I'm worse.

[–]PaleBlueNewInternational Ambassador of Spermjack 3 points4 points ago

I'm going to make this video for all the misandrists out there

We support you! We will forever spermjack in your honour! We shall bathe in the rejuvenating tears of cishet white men, and you will be the one to make it all possible.

[–]Ctrl_Alt_Megan 2 points3 points ago

I've only been here a week but damnit... long live the fempire.

[–]Ctrl_Alt_Megan 4 points5 points ago

Oh! And also if we do end up having to do a Kickstarter we can actually donate the proceeds left over unlike the MRA guys. I'd love to divvy it up between the three charities the MRA guys faked donations to just to really make them mad.

[–]S3xyInternalOrgans 2 points3 points ago

You are devious, borderline Machiavellian. I like you.

[–]Ctrl_Alt_Megan 2 points3 points ago

I have never been called Machiavellian before. :D I like you.

[–]funghiifeminist killjoy 2 points3 points ago

please do this. i can add my library degree to the pile and be useful with it for once

[–]Ctrl_Alt_Megan 2 points3 points ago

Wooohooo with our bachelors combined we shall form one being more powerful than ever thought possible. Voltron will have nothing on the mecha of Misandry!

[–]Misogynist-istOVERLY SENSITIVE LADYTYPE 4 points5 points ago

People claiming that video games don't contribute to sexism because video games don't contribute to violence are missing a major point.

Violence in video games is usually so overt that it's easy to dismiss as fantasy. When it's on a more personal level, like when something is happening to named character, the reaction is stronger. My guess is that most eight-year-olds are not exposed to the same levels of violence in daily life as are present in video games. Sexism in games, now that's a bit trickier. Games that never challenge a pre-existing mindset don't do anything to help change societies to ones that are more equal. It's not about physicality, it's about attitudes. And it's inherently harder to grasp if you're part of the problem.

Edited to fix s-v agreement issue.

[–]Vorpal_Hammer 3 points4 points ago

My guess is that most eight-year-olds are not exposed to the same levels of violence in daily life as are present in video games.

Sweet BRD, I sure hope so!

[–]AnActualWizardIRLNo gods no masters no shitlords 11 points12 points ago

The thing that drives me most nuts about the "too much money!" thing is its pretty clear nobody who makes that accusation has had any exposure to the real world of broadcast quality video production. She only raised $150K. If she was doing this for TV that wouldn't even cover the pre-production costs of a single episode (TV tends to be about $1mil per episode to produce). I mean what do you GET for $150K? Well not as much as people think.

You take out $10K for software and computers (stretching it a bit thin, but one doesnt HAVE to use an AVID system, theres always FCP) . $70K for a years wages for two people (shitty wages for her and an assistant), $20K on cameras (Or maybe more if using a RED system or one of the other top-end camera setups) , $10K on lighting and gizmos leaving $40K for studio rent ,bills and other junk. Theres nowhere in that budget for flights or anything like that, and nowhere for distribution.

To put it bluntly, most professional video producers would balk at that budget as being far too low.

But these clownshoes seem to think she ran off with the bank!

[–]riomhaireYou can't spell St[EA]m without STEM 5 points6 points ago

Also she only asked for $6,000. Everything else was people donating of their own volition above and beyond that goal.

[–]AnActualWizardIRLNo gods no masters no shitlords 4 points5 points ago

Indeed. I was quite happy to throw my $50 in , particularly since i suspected doing it on $6K was a little bit optimistic

[–]SRScreenshotwow 4 points5 points ago

"Anita Sarkeesian was such a money-grabbing bitch, making money by exploiting people with lies and bullshit." [+45]

At 2013-11-25 07:55:28 UTC, /u/TheXand replied to "Dude explains why most outspoken feminists are toxic ." [+48 points: +76, -28]:

Anita Sarkeesian was such a money-grabbing bitch, making money by exploiting people with lies and bullshit. Obviously every critic of her is a rabid woman hater.


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[–]AllieTruist 3 points4 points ago

Her newest video was her best yet. I've seen a few posts on reddit about it, and even many of her naysayers found it to be convincing and hardly objectionable. Of course, there will always be those that refuse to watch her videos and claim they're all MISANDRY and are trying to DESTROY VIDEO GAMES.

Also, I'm pretty sure like 99% of people that contributed to her kickstarter are happy with her series. While it sucks that we had to wait, it was definitely worth it!

[–]Ramivacationwill femunicate your manformation 3 points4 points ago

Incidentally, I realize people may disagree with her analysis or not think it's fair, but what the fuck did she lie about?

[–]Sophaya 3 points4 points ago

I cannot fathom why people get so enraged and nasty like they do about video games, they are what their name says; just games. Weird how some people spend emotional effort being worked up over some video game when they could be getting worked up over something actually important such as child abuse, starvation, disaster relief and so on.

[–]Misogynist-istOVERLY SENSITIVE LADYTYPE 3 points4 points ago

Because games are pretty much all they have? Judging by their responses, they don't exactly have the most gracious social skills.

[–]octopus-crime 3 points4 points ago

The highlight for me was the dude trying to argue that there are clearly games intended for female gamers and using Tomb Raider as an example. This man is either a master satirist or an idiot. Sadly, I'm inclined to think the latter.

[–]laurieisastarall hail Ben 3 points4 points ago

Watch the ableism, please.

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